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Journal of No. 118


December 6th, 2008

The continuing adventures of our founding fathers @ 10:09 am


Yes, more lengthy quotes!

First, Jefferson on the difference between W and Obama:

"For, I agree with you that there is a natural aristocracy among men. The grounds of this are virtue and talents. ... There is also an artificial aristocracy, founded on wealth and birth, without either virtue or talents; for with these it would belong to the first class. The natural aristocracy I consider as the most precious gift of nature, for the instruction, the trusts, and government of society. ...
May we not even say that that form of government is the best, which provides the most effectually for a pure selection of these natural aristoi into the offices of government? The artificial aristocracy is a mischievous ingredient in government, and provision should be made to prevent its ascendancy."

Adams adds: "When I consider the weakness, the folly, the pride, the vanity, the selfishness, the artifice, the unbounded ambition, the unfeeling cruelty of a majority of those (in all nations) who are allowed an aristocratical influence, and, on the other hand, the stupidity with which the more numerous multitude not only become their dupes, but even love to be taken in by their tricks, I feel a stronger disposition to weep at their destiny, than to laugh at their folly."




President Adams blithely espouses heresy:
"The human understanding is a revelation from its Maker which can never be disputed or doubted. ...
This revelation has made it certain that two and one make three, and that one is not three nor can three be one. We can never be so certain of any prophecy, or of any miracle, or the design of any miracle, as we are from the revelation of nature, i.e., Nature's God, that two and two are equal to four. Miracles or prophecies might frighten us out of our wits; might scare us to death; might induce us to lie, to say that we believe that two and two make five. But we should not believe it. We should know the contrary.
Had you and I been forty days with Moses on Mount Sinai, and been admitted to behold the divine Shekinah, and there told that one was three and three one, we might not have had courage to deny it, but we could not have believed it.
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Now, my friend, can prophecies or miracles convince you or me, that infinite benevolence, wisdom and power, created and preserves for a time, innumerable millions, to make them miserable forever for his own glory?
Wretch! What is his glory? Is he ambitious? Does he want promotion? Is he vain, tickled with adulation? Exulting and triumphing in his power and the sweetness of his vengeance?
Pardon me, my Maker, for these awful questions. My answer to them is always ready. I believe no such things! My adoration of the Author of the Universe is too profound and too sincere.
The love of God and his creation, delight, joy, triumph, exultation in my own existence, though but an atom, a molecule organique in the universe, are my religion. Howl, snarl, bite, ye Calvinistic, ye Athanasian divines, if you will. Ye will say I am no Christian! I say ye are no Christians, and there the account is balanced! Yet I believe all the honest men among you are Christians, in my sense of the word."
 
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From:freudinshade
Date:December 7th, 2008 05:42 am (UTC)
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With heretical dialogs like this, there's no way these men could be elected President. And that John Quincy Adams they were talking about in your other posting is mighty suspicious as well. Please point these men out so that I might shun them.

Journal of No. 118